What really limits us is not our limitations, but our perception. The lens through which a person views the world is not the problem, it’s what actions that a person makes that can be. Today, we talk to E. Marie Hall about combating the limiting mindsets each of us face and moving through those mindsets toward developing an unstoppable mindset to help grow more success. Marie defines what mindset really is and answers where mindsets come from. Marie also shares how mindset relates to setting boundaries and how to shift our negative thinking through the Observe, Question, and Replace Method. We’re often told, “the sky is the limit,” but sometimes it’s the mindset we hold on to that dictates how far we can go. Don’t miss out on today’s inspiring episode!
“Once you realize you are not limited, you can do so much more.” ” -E. Marie Hall
Highlights:
03:21 Mindset Defined
07:51 Mindset Shifts
10:30 The Wrong Way To Rationalize
13:13 Unstoppable Mindset vs Stagnant Mindset
15:52 Mindset Shapes Boundaries
19:15 Observe, Question, Replace
22:00 Lose Your Limitations
29:31 How Dare You Deny Yourself!
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Quotes:
03:30 “Mindset is the lens through which we view life.” -E. Marie Hall
07:52 “Where there is life, there is hope.” -E. Marie Hall
09:21 “It’s easy to keep doing whatever we’ve been doing, even though we’re miserable doing it.” -E. Marie Hall
10:26 “If it’s not working for you, you shouldn’t still be doing it.” -Arlene Gale
12:15 “There are some people who are scared so they do nothing; and some people who are scared and they do it anyway.” -Arlene Gale
15:52 “Boundaries are really important in our life. And sometimes we don’t realize that we have permission to set those boundaries.” ” -E. Marie Hall
25:46 “Once you realize you are not limited, you can do so much more.” -E. Marie Hall
30:27 “Keep moving, because it’s something you have to do.” -E. Marie Hall
Connect with E Marie:
Marie Hall has worked with high-level professionals for more than 30 years. In addition to Mindset Mastery/Success/Personal/Business Coaching, she provides group coaching to professionals looking to overcome obstacles, and uplevel their success. Marie is also a Bestselling Author and an award-winning speaker who has spoken on stages all around the world. She discovered the power of the mind decades ago through the intense study of personal development practices and innovative mindset growth strategies. She has not only transformed her own life with these powerful tools but she’s helped others do the same. It was the tragedies in her life that inspired action and serve to prove that there are advantages in every adversity.
Transcription:
Arlene Gale: Welcome everybody to this episode of Mindset Meets Mastery. Have you ever thought to yourself, I’m just too old to learn that. But that happens to me a lot, especially when it comes to technology. And I’ll tell you what, this isolation or social distancing is we’re calling it right now, has given me the time and in some cases forced me to learn some new technology. So for some of you who are younger who do Facebook live all the time, I got to tell you, I just learned how to do that. Yay, me. But for awhile it was like, it was crazy. It’s like I pushed every button I know how to push, and I think that at my age, if I pushed the wrong button, I don’t have this much power, but it feels like if I pushed that button, everything’s going to explode or catch fire because I’m that old.
But I want to introduce my guest today, E.Marie Hall, because we’re going to talk about why that mindset, why that myth or misconception is wrong. I don’t know how other way to put that. If you’re thinking you’re too old to learn or you’re too old to do, you’re just wrong. Just putting it out there. So E.Marie Hall has worked with high level professionals for more than 30 years. In addition to mindset mastery, success, personal and business coaching, she provides group coaching to professionals looking to overcome obstacles and uplevel their success. Marie is also a bestselling author and an award winning speaker who has spoken on stages all around the world. She discovered the power of the mind decades ago through the intense study of personal development practices and innovative mindset growth strategies. She has not only transformed her own life with these powerful tools, but she’s helped others do the same. It was the tragedies in her life that inspired action and serve to prove that there are advantages in every adversity.
So Marie, welcome and we have that adversity stuff in common.
E.Marie Hall: Oh, yes. Thank you so much for having me, Arlene. I’m very, very happy to be here with you today. Thank you for having me.
Arlene Gale: You are very welcome. It’s so exciting to get to talk to somebody who believes that we can learn lessons from adversity and how do we have mindsets that keep us stuck. So let’s start, because I have my definition of mindset, and sometimes I start talking to other people and their definition of mindset is a little bit different. So tell me, since you’re the trained professional and I am no way near professional, tell me what is the definition of mindset, and where does it come from?
E.Marie Hall: Well, it’s just what it sounds like. If you think about it, Arlene, it’s your mind that gets set, and it gets set in a certain way. So mindset, my real simple, clear definition of it is the lens through which we view life. It is those rose colored glasses or whatever color you want to use that we all walk around looking through, because our mind is set in a particular way. It’s set in certain ways and it allows us to view things in certain ways, our perception,
“Mindset is the lens through which we view life.” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: So where do those mindsets come from? How do we get those things in our head?
E.Marie Hall: That’s a good question. Almost from birth, our environments, our experiences, race, religion, culture, all of that feeds into developing this mindset. I like to say it’s like jello, because most people are familiar with jello. You have some hot water, you have cold water, and then you may want to throw some fruit in along the way. But if you’ve ever made it, you know that you have to put it in at just the right time for it to gel properly. The mind is kind of like that. All along, all through life from birth, we’re throwing in fruit. Some of it is thrown in very early. Adversities, experiences, good and bad. Some of it just sits on the bottom. That takes us throughout our whole life. Got dumped in very early and we never dealt with it, it forms into our mindsets. We try to put it in later in life, but we’ve had this notion that, Oh, I’m too old, I can’t learn this. So it just sits on the top. We don’t allow it to permeate. So all during life we’re developing this mindset, either enhancing it or we’re menacing it as we go along. But we have somewhat of a base for our mindset from the beginning and we can add to it or we can take away from it.
Arlene Gale: So let me ask you, so mindset is not something we’re born with. It’s something that we take in that other people put on us.
E.Marie Hall: Yes, that is absolutely true. And our environment plays into it a lot, so maybe we’re born into a certain environment and that plays into our mindset. But you can have two people who may have heard the story where one son said my dad was an alcoholic and the other one said my dad was an alcoholic. One says, that’s why I’m an alcoholic. The other says, that’s why I’m not an alcoholic.
Arlene Gale: Wow. You just read my story.
E.Marie Hall: A lot of other people, right?
Arlene Gale: Absolutely. Yeah, because I’m the same way. I’m the oldest of three, and my second sister is little less than a year younger than I am. And she and I have similar versions of the truth, but then I’ve got a younger sister that’s four years younger who says, well, that never happened because she had completely different parents and it affected her differently, because by the time my dad got done beating me and my sister, I guess he didn’t have any energy left for her. But yeah, and then I went on to decide that I was going to prove him wrong in the way I lived, and my other sister almost decided, well, he set the course for my life. Does that come from personality? Does that come from genetics? I get that question all the time and I don’t know how to answer it. Can you answer it?
E.Marie Hall: It’s just how we take it in. We’re all individuals. It looks one way to one person. It looks another way to another. Where we’re just individuals, well, it’s because of this or it’s because of that we process differently. Sometimes we are more of a diversion type person, so we divert and sometimes we don’t. So it just depends on the individual makeup, the individual mindset, how our perception is for each person. It’s the same act, but I perceive it differently than you do.
Arlene Gale: And what does that saying about there is no reality, it’s only perception.
E.Marie Hall: There you go.
Arlene Gale: There you go. So as we age, can these mindsets be changed?
E.Marie Hall: Absolutely. Where there is life, there is hope.
“Where there is life, there is hope.” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: Amen.
E.Marie Hall: Amen, right?
Arlene Gale: Absolutely.
E.Marie Hall: It’s not just cliche, it’s real. And first of all, if you’re aware of where you are, you know what? I’ve been stumbling around here for most of my life, why don’t I try to do something different? What’s going on here? Awareness is the first key. I’d like to grow. I like to be better in my relationships and my career, my finances. I’d like to do something a little different, first step.
Arlene Gale: So if somebody is unhappy with their job or their whatever, then the first thing is saying, I want something different. That’s what you’re saying?
E.Marie Hall: Right, I’m unhappy, first of all, acknowledging that, and that’s okay, I’m unhappy with my job. Then you might think about, why am I unhappy with it? Are there certain aspects of it that I do like and then certain aspects that I don’t like. So really getting inside and not being afraid to ask those difficult questions. What’s wrong here?
Arlene Gale: Well, and some people get so comfortable in being uncomfortable. Isn’t that also kind of a mindset?
E.Marie Hall: Yes. Well, it’s easy. It’s easy for us. It’s easy to keep doing whatever we’ve been doing, even though we’re miserable doing it. You’re comfortable with what you’re comfortable with, so you don’t know. If you take that step, is it going to be worse? Is it going to be better? Is it going to be the same? Am I gonna want to run back to that comfortable slipper? You got your old slippers where your toes fit in just right, then you get a new pair and it’s like, huh, these don’t fit the same. Break them in, right?
“It's easy to keep doing whatever we've been doing, even though we're miserable doing it.” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: Back to maybe the old was better.
E.Marie Hall: Right.
Arlene Gale: Yeah. You know that bathrobe you could come out in the living room and I may be telling you too much about my personal life here, I’m just warning you, that all bathrobe that your family looks at and goes, really, you still have that.
E.Marie Hall: I just love it. It feels good, right?
Arlene Gale: I love it. Yeah. If it were scratchy, or itchy, or whatever, if it didn’t fit right or feel right, I wouldn’t still be wearing it. So doesn’t that mean the same thing if you’ve got a mindset in a certain direction? If it’s not working for you, you shouldn’t still be doing it, right?
“If it's not working for you, you shouldn't still be doing it.” -Arlene Gale Click To TweetE.Marie Hall: Exactly. But sometimes you’re thinking, you rationalize, it’s not so bad. At least I’m getting a paycheck. Atleast I’m in a relationship. At least I have enough money to pay the bills. So you rationalize, not thinking, but could it be better? I like it to be better.
Arlene Gale: Okay, so we’re talking about wisdom and age, or maybe not wisdom, I don’t know, It depends on the day for me. We’re talking about as we age, what does mindset, how does it rule our life? How does it keep us from achieving success and whatever that means for each individual?
E.Marie Hall: Age becomes an excuse, lots of excuses. I’m too old, I’m too young, I can’t do on social media, all different kinds of excuses. So age becomes the excuse and your mind says, okay, you’re right. Yeah, we are too old to start a new business. What’s wrong with you? You need security right now. How dare you try to step out and make changes at this point in your life, you’re supposed to be slowing down. It becomes an excuse.
Arlene Gale: So I’ve got this question. Some people say, because most of my clients are people who have been downsized or whatever in a corporation, and they’re mid 50’s or older, and they’ve got all this great experience and they want to start a business. They want to take what they know and do something in the world to make it a better place to help people who are coming up behind them, but they’re scared. And what I meet is there are some people who are scared so they do nothing. And some people who are scared and they do it anyway. What is that about?
“There are some people who are scared so they do nothing; and some people who are scared and they do it anyway.” -Arlene Gale Click To TweetE.Marie Hall: It’s about pushing yourself. You have to push yourself. There is no way around it. Getting around other people that push themselves and that support you. And looking at all the different stories of people that have done exactly what you want to do and more, how are they different? We’re all human beings, right? We’re all human beings. If they can do it, if I can do it, you can do it Arlene.
Arlene Gale: Absolutely. Amen. I’ve never said Amen in a single episode so many times. So what is the difference between having an unstoppable mindset versus a stagnant mindset? Because you use that terminology in what you do. Can you explain the difference between the two?
E.Marie Hall: Yes, and it’s perfect for right now in these uncertain times.
Arlene Gale: Mm.
E.Marie Hall: So do we just sit back and say, Oh, gosh, this is the end of the world, we’re doomed. Nothing’s ever going to happen. I’m never going outside again. I’m never touching another person. This is it, the world is over. Or do we go inside and think, how can I be creative? How can I be innovative right now during this time period? How can I do more, not less? How can I work on myself more so that I have more time? How can I reach out to others more? What way can I tweak my gift, my talent, and still bring it to the world? That’s the unstoppable mindset. Stagnant, to me is like stagnant water, just sitting there smelling. I mean, you need to get this visual in your head. Smelling, mosquitoes all around and it’s just sitting there, it’s not flowing, it’s not moving, just like the mindset, stagnant. Whatever information you get thrown to you, just suck it in and believe it. You can’t do any better. We can’t move forward. We can’t make a difference right now. That’s a stagnant mindset, that’s not a growth mindset which is unstoppable.
Arlene Gale: Unstoppable. So we’re going to take a quick break and when we come back, I want to ask you, you talked a little bit about boundaries and what you do. How does a mindset impact setting boundaries and then upholding the boundaries that we set? So we’re going to take a quick break and I’ll let you think about the answer for a second, and then we’ll come back.
Welcome back everybody. We’re having a great conversation with E.Marie Hall, and she’s a mindset expert, that’s what she does. Before we went on break, I asked a question about how does our mindset impact, how we set boundaries, and how we enforce boundaries so boundaries don’t become walls, for example.
E.Marie Hall: Well, that’s a very, very good question. Again, Arlene, all of them are. But boundaries are really important in our life, and sometimes we don’t realize that we have permission to set those boundaries. We have permission within our family, within our career, within our relationships to say, no, this isn’t good with me, that we don’t have to keep giving, and giving, and giving and give. We don’t have to be people pleasers. So some of those things happen during childhood. We become like people pleasers and overachievers, and all of this because we don’t know how to set boundaries. We don’t realize that we can own our own power. In my guide book, I talk about owning your power. We don’t realize that we can do that. Once we realize that it’s our responsibility, it’s our life, it’s our mind of control, we’re no longer a victim. So once you realize you have the power, you can set those boundaries. You can say, no, I don’t take calls after this and say those things. You can say, no, I don’t feed into the gossip because it’s your life. You can set those boundaries, and if these people love you and appreciate who you are, they will fall in line. If they don’t, limit contact with them. Or perhaps there’s someone that shouldn’t be in your circle in the first place.
“Boundaries are really important in our life. And sometimes we don't realize that we have permission to set those boundaries.” ” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: Because do you find that people who have positive, unstoppable mindsets that they draw minded people to them versus people who are, I don’t know, bah, humbug, those e-horse.
E.Marie Hall: Absolutely. Absolutely. We attract, we attract people like us. Misery loves company, right? I mean, people are sitting around right now commiserating, and you call up the other person and you commiserate, and you talk about the conspiracy theory and all of this, and then others like us, most likely we say, no, what can we do positively? How can we have a positive conversation? So eventually those people will still call us. Chances are they already know that we’re not going to feed into it, so they don’t call us. So you get more of what you put out there.
Arlene Gale: Well, a mindset, is there a mindset that has to do with what we think we deserve versus what we want?
E.Marie Hall: Absolutely. All of that feeds into the success mindset. If you don’t think you deserve success, you’re not going to get it. “Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t – you’re right,” I don’t remember whose quotation that was, but it is so true. A lot of self worth plays into mindset, how you value yourself? How have you been fed things? Maybe it came from your childhood. Maybe you had an abusive parent or someone that said, you’re never going to be anything, and in your mind back there, I’m never going to be anything. So you sabotage your own success. So yes, we must believe that we are worthy. We must have self-worth.
Arlene Gale: So what is a tool that you can give that people who have that fight in them, they have that little battle going on inside their head that says, I want more, I want more, you don’t deserve it. Can you give us an idea of how we break that conversation, that mindset.
E.Marie Hall: Absolutely. We, of course can go deep in coaching and figure out where it came from, but just on the surface there, I’ll say start questioning all of your thoughts. Start questioning your belief. Ask yourself, where did that come from? When did I start believing that? Is it true? How do I know it’s true? Observe what you’re thinking and why you’re thinking it. We started journaling about it, started writing it down. This is my thought, Oh, gosh, I’m too old, I could never do that. Research and see if anybody your age, older has ever done anything close to what you want to do. How are they different from you? You have a question, observe, and replace the thoughts with empowering thoughts.
Arlene Gale: Question, observe, and then replace.
E.Marie Hall: Observe, question and replace.
Arlene Gale: Observe, question, replace. Alright, remember that, observe, question, replace, because we have to break that mindset and replace that negative mindset. Well, we don’t have to either, do we?
E.Marie Hall: No, we don’t.
Arlene Gale: We don’t. We can be happy swimming in the mud.
E.Marie Hall: In mediocrity.
Arlene Gale: That’s one of my pet peeves. I can’t believe I said that. We have to, no, we don’t. I actually had a client say that to me one time, I said: “You have to do this.” And they went: “No, I don’t.” It’s like, you know what? You’re absolutely right. Who do I think I am? If you want to be unhappy, then be unhappy. I have no control over that.
E.Marie Hall: But don’t complain to me about it. That’s my pet peeve.
Arlene Gale: Ooh, that’s a good addition.
E.Marie Hall: If you’re not willing to take steps to improve, I don’t want to hear about it. Really go whine and complain to somebody else.
Arlene Gale: Yeah. Somebody else like you who doesn’t want to change, they just want to whine and complain. Whining and complaining is not productive. It doesn’t move you forward.
E.Marie Hall: Blaming and blaming, we got to cross those out.
Arlene Gale: Because I’m a book writing coach, so I always tell people or ask people, if you’re adding this story to your book, how does it move the story forward? How does it help the reader move from here to there? So mindsets are the same way, right? How does that mindset move you from here to there?
E.Marie Hall: Does it enhance? Or does it deplete? What are the two? Are you growing or dying? We’re growing or dying at any given moment.
Arlene Gale: Absolutely. Is there any research or anything on how having a limited mindset affects our health, our finances, our career, even our relationships?
E.Marie Hall: Oh, gosh, there’s so much. I know Joe Dispenza as someone my son and I like to listen to his research, and Tony Robbins, so many people, there’s so much research about it. As a matter of fact, I heard about a study once, I don’t have all the details on it, but it was where they took a group of elderly men and they placed them in a facility, and they placed all just things from their younger years around them. The television shows, the articles, everything. Nothing was from the time period that they lived in, nothing was there. They came in with their walkers, and by the time they left, they were walking, they were just going up and down the steps, no medicine, no medication or therapy except mental. All of a sudden, that environment soaked into their mentality and they lost their limitations. It’s so powerful because we have these limiting thoughts that say what we can’t do. The cells respond to that, and they say, right, we can’t do it. We can’t exercise. We can’t do it, you’re right. Your cells respond to the limitations that you give them, the body, mind, spirit, all of that interacts so closely together.
Arlene Gale: And if we think we’re old and incapable of learning, then that’s what we’re going to manifest. Is that what you’re saying?
E.Marie Hall: Exactly. Yourself say, yes, we are. We all sit on the couch. Yes, I agree with you. Don’t you move.
Arlene Gale: Don’t, don’t, don’t.
E.Marie Hall: Don’t you move. How dare you try new ideas and projects, you’re over 50, you’re over 60, you’re over 70. We know people that are in the Guinness book of records, don’t we, Arlene?
Arlene Gale: Absolutely.
E.Marie Hall: 70, 80, or something years old.
Arlene Gale: Well, let’s see. I think Anne Lorimor, do you know Anne?
E.Marie Hall: Yes, Anne.
Arlene Gale: Yep. She’s like 92 years old and holds the Guinness world record for, yeah. Well, I think the first time she climbed it, I think she was 89, but she just broke that record this past July at 92 years old. Imagine, I don’t think at any age I ever imagined being able to climb Mount Kilimanjaro. But she’s done it twice, she holds the record as the oldest person and the oldest woman for having summited Mount Kilimanjaro. And when you look at her and hear her speak, she seems unstoppable. And you ask her why and she says, because I am, okay.
E.Marie Hall: Nobody told her she couldn’t.
Arlene Gale: Exactly.
E.Marie Hall: She inspires me so much. I had the pleasure of meeting her. She inspires me so much, and look at that, she talks about limiting beliefs that she said her head, come on lady, you’re old, you’re not climbing anybody’s mountain. No, she didn’t. She said there’s a mountain, I have feet, I’m climbing it.
Arlene Gale: And she’s training to climb another one.
E.Marie Hall: So amazing.
Arlene Gale: But I think part of that is because her mindset is that she can, number one. But I think the other mindset is she has a passion and what she does is trying to raise awareness and bring in money for her nonprofit, which is to help underserved children. Nobody told her she couldn’t do that either. Nobody told her that people wouldn’t care. Nobody told her that nobody would give money. She hears those things all the time and she just kinda goes on anyway because it doesn’t matter to her. She doesn’t believe it. It’s not in her mindset.
E.Marie Hall: She’s not limited, not limited. And once you realize you are not limited, you only limit yourself. Our own thoughts limit us, then you can do so much more. Why can’t I? Well, how do I know I can’t do it? Don’t listen to those beliefs. And then tell the opposite, what if that’s wrong? What if I could do it?
“Once you realize you are not limited, you can do so much more.” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: Absolutely. So how do you work with clients with what you’re talking about, with mindset and overcoming those negative thoughts that hold us back.
E.Marie Hall: I work with clients one-on-one. I have various coaching programs from jumpstart, which is about two months to like a whole nine months program. I have VIP days and we just jump in there, we get down to the root of whatever it is. What area of your life are you trying to improve? Your finances, your career, your relationship? It all ties into mindset. So once you work on that one area, you will see that it’s across the board. So I work with clients on all those levels and also in speaking engagements and workshops as well.
Arlene Gale: So how can people connect with you? I mean, give us your website and where are you on social media so people who are interested in working with you can find you.
E.Marie Hall: Yes. And I encourage everyone to download my free guide book, seven keys to mastering your mindset, which is on my website, mindsetmasterysuccess.com, mindsetmasterysuccess.com, that’s my website. On social media on @emariespeaks, on all social media.
Arlene Gale: @emariespeaks. I’ve been cyber-stalking her. But her Facebook is fabulous, I was going through it and there’s lots of wisdom there. There’s stuff that I think I used to know, but it’s really nice to get a reminder that, Oh, yeah, that is great wisdom. So I encourage everybody to connect with you on social media. And if you’re having problems adjusting your mindset, or setting boundaries, or any of those things, I really highly encourage you to get ahold of Marie. Give us the website again.
E.Marie Hall: mindsetmasterysuccess.com.
Arlene Gale: Yay. Okay, so we got a couple minutes left so I want to put you on the hot seat, is that okay?
E.Marie Hall: Okay.
Arlene Gale: I don’t know why I asked because even if it’s not okay, I do it anyway. That’s my mindset, I don’t know, I’ve got an agenda. Okay, so let’s think about YOU personally. You’re doing really well in business and you have a passion for what you’re doing, but was there one mindset that was a hurdle for you that was, that kind of stood in your way for a while that you needed to overcome?
E.Marie Hall: Yes. I was always extremely shy, hardly talked to anybody. I always talk about being that shy, scary girl that walked across the field to high school when I was younger. And I was really shy and I never imagined myself speaking on stages, coaching anybody, or doing any of this.
Arlene Gale: Wow.
E.Marie Hall: That was the mindset that I had to overcome. When I realized that you have a gift, you have tech words that weren’t given to you for no reason, get up there and use it.
Arlene Gale: So when you have that mindset, how do you put a tool or a system in place that helps you move through it, even though there’s that voice that says you can’t, and the other one that says, Oh, yeah, you can. How did you get past that?
E.Marie Hall: Well, to be perfectly honest, I felt like I denied God if I didn’t do it. I was given the gift for a reason, how dare I cover it up in the sand. I started pushing myself. And when you have someone else working along with you, my son, he actually introduced me to personal development. We got together and it was like a light bulb went off in my head. It was September, 2009 when I heard Jim Rohn speak on a CD and I knew that that was for me, it was like an epiphany. I knew it was for me and I just had to keep pushing myself, keep doing it. Don’t think too much about it. Just keep reaching out, reaching out, reaching out to the organizations, getting the training that you need, finding other people to support you. They’re out there, so many people, you just keep moving. You don’t listen to the voices, you keep moving because it’s something you have to do. And if you have a WHY, like I lost my mother and sister both to domestic violence. I feel as if I honor them when I speak, when I encourage people with their mindsets, I feel as if I honor them. So I keep doing it.
“Keep moving, because it's something you have to do.” -E. Marie Hall Click To TweetArlene Gale: Absolutely. That’s fabulous. So that’s where I start with my clients too, is what is your why? Why do you want to write your story? Why do you want to tell people what you’ve been through, and what you’ve learned, and how you can help them? Why? Because that is such a powerful motivator. So if you put that with the mindset, why do you think that way? Why? Because if you know where it comes from, then you can change it. Am I hearing you right?
E.Marie Hall: Yes, you are. A comfortable place of service. You want to help people, and you don’t want to deny them that help, your story helps other people.
Arlene Gale: I had a friend tell me one time, I don’t know if you have any of those friends who are annoying and brutally honest, and then occasionally, right, which is why they’re still friends. But I have this friend that told me one time and I took it to heart as like, how dare you take the gift that you were given and then let it sit there and not even bothered to shake the box? Says, think about what’s inside, or unwrap it, or anything. You just let it sit there.
E.Marie Hall: That’s so good.
Arlene Gale: That imagery made me cry at first because it made me feel so bad and then I used it to kick myself in the high end every time I needed it, that’s what I think of. I see that image of that beautifully wrapped package, that gift that was given to me that I didn’t even bother to shake, or touch, or do anything with.
E.Marie Hall: Yes, I’ve had those moments as well. It’s like, Oh, right to the heart, right to the gut.
Arlene Gale: Exactly. So I encourage my listeners to use that imagery and figure out what mindset tool, recovery tool is in that box that speaks to your gifts and your talents. Because I think that, what I would like to leave people with is you’re never too old to learn and you’re never too young to speak. So what’s your son’s name?
E.Marie Hall: [inaudible].
Arlene Gale: Yes. So [inaudible], thank you for that. That’s a shout out, because we can learn from each other. Mentoring, learning and teaching is a give and take if you do it right. So, okay, off my soapbox. Anyway, Marie, thank you so much for spending some time with us today, and I know that what you have spoken about, the mindset and how to overcome them and to become more unstoppable is really important to so many people. They need to hear this message. So thank you for your time.
E.Marie Hall: Thank you for having me, Arlene. It’s a great pleasure to be with you.
Arlene Gale: You are very welcome. So listeners, I want to leave you with this. Don’t let the world dictate what you can or cannot do, that’s your choice. You set those boundaries. You determine every single day how you’re going to live your life and how you’re going to tell your story. With that, I’ll look forward to seeing you next time.
E.Marie Hall: Thank you.